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#1 Credible Hulk

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 02:01 PM

I just got approved for MMPR last week. I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the procedures, doesn't help that the clinic I dealt with wasn't the most forthcoming with information. But that's for another post. 

 

My main condition is Bipolar Disorder, I also have PTSD and some physical health issues like arthritis pain. Because my primary diagnosis is mental as opposed to physical, I've had to search for years for doctors who would even discuss MM with me. Most ruled me out as soon as they knew I had BP. While looking for a doctor I started ordering my own stuff online and have been using this every day for over a year. My primary doctor noticed the improvement to my symptoms and agreed to sign the referral for MMPR. I believe there's a bias against the mentally ill in the healthcare system, and this is why we're being automatically ruled out for cannabis treatment.

 

I haven't ordered my first medical shipment yet, and haven't formally signed up with a producer, though based on my doctor's recommendation of low THC/high CBD strains, it will probably be mettrum. 

 

 


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:37 PM

Mettrum is okay so far- they do have a 15g minimum order.

 

I'd also recommend joining a compassion club- CALM is a good start. There are lots in Canada.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 06:16 PM

I'd do one order from the LP to get the bottles then use a CC. Better quality and much cheaper. Calm is s great place to start, huge selection of medication in all different shapes, forms, tastes and color.
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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:25 PM

Welcome. I hope to hear more success stories from you. I also have the diagnosis of bipolar disorder and have a similar story of the difficulty of dealing with doctors. It took me about five years of my primary psychiatrist trying everything under the sun. I always used street cannabis but about four years ago he finally said to me that it is your medicine and pretty much from that point on I have been mmar with some bumps along the way. I have just learned of a brain injury and am also looking for high cbd cannabis. Please let me know what you find that works well for the bipolar disorder. I do not get depressed really just very manic and angry. I will offer you my suggestions. Dealing with bipolar you will want to use more and more cannabis. Just realize that the cannabis can help in moderation but in excess it can be problematic. I see greater success in my life when I use a few grams per day (5) instead of the excessive times when I have consumed up to an ounce in a day. Bipolar is manageable with moderate doses of potent cannabis and your regular mood stabilizer. It is important to take your pills and they work better with the cannabis. I use both every day. If I don't I can tell I swear at everyone lol. I like to cook coconut oil for sleeping so I wake up calm and so I get hungry at night to eat and take my meds. I vape flowers, dab melts, eat edibles, hit bong hits all as needed. I find the most success with a dosing schedule where I take my pills the night before with coconut oil and inhale cannabis until I feel like sleeping. Hopefully before two. Then try to get 6-8 hrs of good sleep. I vape an indica when I wake up to stay balanced. Usually about a .5-.75 of a kush strain. I recommend pink kush for this condition. I find chemo kush works as a substitute for pink. I take raw oil if needed at about 2 pm and I am inhaling doses as needed. I try to limit my use it is easy to get carried away but realize it is medicine and it can really help you if you let it. Headband is a nice sativa option and I like organic jillybean to get by on. You will find what works. Message me and I'm glad to help. I feel like this treatment has not only kept me from being an inpatient but it has truly brought peace to my life and I know that without it things are very different. It is a valuable medication for you. Don't let anyone let you think otherwise. Be proud of your self and please bring more attention to this as I feel there is a tremendous stigma on both the condition and the treatment that must be removed. It starts with us. Good for you.

Contact cfamm, it is a foundation started to advocate for medical cannabis patients. They might be able to help you get your lp meds reimbursed through an insurance company. He is a very professional resource and I highly recommend that any and all patients check out and register at www.cfamm.ca. And Brian has great advice too you should look into the dispensaries as they offer many things that the Lps cannot. And it is nice to be able to buy your treatment so you can start taking it instead of then having to figure out how to process it into the form you want to consume. If you want to smoke that's easy but I recommend some food grade oil like coconut or grape seed infused with your medicine and maybe an extract to inhale as needed if things get bad. I would stay away from all the solvent made extracts and I would maybe look into the bubblebag system as nothing beats the fullmelt you can make. A dab of fullmelt when shit hits the fan beats shatter or lho all day.

Please continue your fight, it's not over. Well done!
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Posted 02 June 2015 - 04:36 PM

Mettrum is okay so far- they do have a 15g minimum order.

 

I'd also recommend joining a compassion club- CALM is a good start. There are lots in Canada.

 

http://cannabisclub.ca

 

Thanks for the info - the fly-by-night clinic I'm dealing with says I have to order 20g every month no matter who the LP is. Other than that they haven't told me much, but that's for another post. I looked at compassion clubs online but the ones in my area all charge $300 or more in membership fees. There doesn't appear to be any advantage in return for those fees, no discount on weed or anything. I will look again, though. I'm not sure if I'm somehow locked in to dealing with this clinic. They didn't charge me a fee - but you get what you pay for, and I'm not too happy with them right now. 



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Posted 02 June 2015 - 04:59 PM

Thanks for the info - the fly-by-night clinic I'm dealing with says I have to order 20g every month no matter who the LP is. Other than that they haven't told me much, but that's for another post. I looked at compassion clubs online but the ones in my area all charge $300 or more in membership fees. There doesn't appear to be any advantage in return for those fees, no discount on weed or anything. I will look again, though. I'm not sure if I'm somehow locked in to dealing with this clinic. They didn't charge me a fee - but you get what you pay for, and I'm not too happy with them right now. 

 

You don't have to order a minimum per/every month from any LP. I also wouldn't join any "compassion club" that charges ANY amount for membership- your patronage should be enough.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 05:27 PM

Welcome. I hope to hear more success stories from you. I also have the diagnosis of bipolar disorder and have a similar story of the difficulty of dealing with doctors. It took me about five years of my primary psychiatrist trying everything under the sun. I always used street cannabis but about four years ago he finally said to me that it is your medicine and pretty much from that point on I have been mmar with some bumps along the way. I have just learned of a brain injury and am also looking for high cbd cannabis. Please let me know what you find that works well for the bipolar disorder. I do not get depressed really just very manic and angry. I will offer you my suggestions. Dealing with bipolar you will want to use more and more cannabis. Just realize that the cannabis can help in moderation but in excess it can be problematic. I see greater success in my life when I use a few grams per day (5) instead of the excessive times when I have consumed up to an ounce in a day. Bipolar is manageable with moderate doses of potent cannabis and your regular mood stabilizer. It is important to take your pills and they work better with the cannabis. I use both every day. If I don't I can tell I swear at everyone lol. I like to cook coconut oil for sleeping so I wake up calm and so I get hungry at night to eat and take my meds. I vape flowers, dab melts, eat edibles, hit bong hits all as needed. I find the most success with a dosing schedule where I take my pills the night before with coconut oil and inhale cannabis until I feel like sleeping. Hopefully before two. Then try to get 6-8 hrs of good sleep. I vape an indica when I wake up to stay balanced. Usually about a .5-.75 of a kush strain. I recommend pink kush for this condition. I find chemo kush works as a substitute for pink. I take raw oil if needed at about 2 pm and I am inhaling doses as needed. I try to limit my use it is easy to get carried away but realize it is medicine and it can really help you if you let it. Headband is a nice sativa option and I like organic jillybean to get by on. You will find what works. Message me and I'm glad to help. I feel like this treatment has not only kept me from being an inpatient but it has truly brought peace to my life and I know that without it things are very different. It is a valuable medication for you. Don't let anyone let you think otherwise. Be proud of your self and please bring more attention to this as I feel there is a tremendous stigma on both the condition and the treatment that must be removed. It starts with us. Good for you.

Contact cfamm, it is a foundation started to advocate for medical cannabis patients. They might be able to help you get your lp meds reimbursed through an insurance company. He is a very professional resource and I highly recommend that any and all patients check out and register at www.cfamm.ca. And Brian has great advice too you should look into the dispensaries as they offer many things that the Lps cannot. And it is nice to be able to buy your treatment so you can start taking it instead of then having to figure out how to process it into the form you want to consume. If you want to smoke that's easy but I recommend some food grade oil like coconut or grape seed infused with your medicine and maybe an extract to inhale as needed if things get bad. I would stay away from all the solvent made extracts and I would maybe look into the bubblebag system as nothing beats the fullmelt you can make. A dab of fullmelt when shit hits the fan beats shatter or lho all day.

Please continue your fight, it's not over. Well done!

Thanks for the encouragement! It's nice to hear from someone going through the same thing I am. I have also been on every psych med known to man, as well as ECT which wiped out my memories for 2 years. Yet all the shrinks do is try to push more meds on me or "have you tried this, have you tried that?" Yes Doctor, I've tried them all and then some. I also had a brain injury/skull fracture at a young age, which the docs ignored and continue to discount "oh well it was a long time ago". I've asked 3 times for MRIs or other tests and got nowhere. Yet "we can't understand why none of these meds are working for you or why the ECT wiped your memory!" Wouldn't have anything to do with that fractured skull or the years of blackouts I had afterwards, would it?

 

I also have an alcohol problem and they use this as another excuse to discriminate and refuse to prescribe MMJ. The fact that I've been sober for 3 years doesn't matter to them - "If you're an addict, you only want weed for recreational purposes."  The only reason my psychiatrist finally agreed to sign the referral form was because he'd known me long enough to see that I'm not drinking and have my head on straight. 

 

I also find I can get more irritable on weed. I was told many times "you can't have weed, you'll get manic/psychotic". When I first started it, I'd literally see red and destroy things, or injure myself by slamming fists into the wall etc. I still get enraged but I've learned to control it better, and I only get this way if I have a good reason. The rage is still better than the years of being zonked out on the couch wanting to die, the massive weight gain, and trying to kill myself more times than I can count.

 

I've learned to strictly limit the amount I take. I think of it just like any of my other pills. I've never been one to stay stoned all the time because it knocks me right out. So I take one bong hit before bedtime. Once in a while I take another hit during the day if I get extremely agitated. I often get paranoid if I do this, so I only do it rarely. Overall, I like the feeling of being stoned, to a point. I'm not fond of the paranoia/panic attacks, or being groggy. So I'm looking forward to trying the high CBD strains. I hope the lower THC means I won't have paranoia and won't be as sleepy. The ones the clinic recommended are between 3-8% THC. I've tried many strains of street stuff, the dealer I order from is always rotating his strains. I've tried sativas and indicas, doesn't seem to make a difference to me. But of course, on the street, everyone wants high THC. But it will be nice to (hopefully) be able to try different strains until I find the right one. 

 

I find I don't get very stoned from dabbing or vaping. I've tried shatter, wax and hash for dabbing. I have an Extreme Q vape and have tried the whip and the bags, no difference. I prefer bongs or bubblers. Not into joints or pipes (too harsh). I will look into the coconut oil infusion, I already use the virgin organic stuff for cooking and for my skin. 

 

I signed up with CFAMM but haven't contacted them directly yet. I'm on the Ontario provincial drug plan, which is a joke. Huge $300 deductible 4 times per year, and they don't cover many drugs for purely arbitrary reasons. Like not covering my sleep med because they believe it's a recreational drug for addicts. I'm pretty sure the Ontario drug plan won't cover my MMJ if they don't cover sleep meds. They hide behind the technicality "it's not listed as a real drug and doesn't have a DIN number." 

 

I'll definitely look into compassion clinics here. I researched clinics for a long time but found they all wanted $300 or more for membership fees. I chose a new clinic that's covered under OHIP but their service hasn't been the best so far. 


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 05:50 PM

I'm not sure what kind of services you are looking from your cannabis clinic- but MRC (https://mrcservices.ca) will help patients with a diagnosis get their MMPR documents with one of their doctors. That's what I needed, I choose my first two LPs myself Tilray & Organigram, but Mettrum MRC suggested I try when I renewed this last time. So far interesting results. :)

 

I hope we can offer you some support on the cannabis.ca boards.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 06:02 PM

I'm not sure what kind of services you are looking from your cannabis clinic- but MRC (https://mrcservices.ca) will help patients with a diagnosis get their MMPR documents with one of their doctors. That's what I needed, I choose my first two LPs myself Tilray & Organigram, but Mettrum MRC suggested I try when I renewed this last time. So far interesting results. :)

 

I hope we can offer you some support on the cannabis.ca boards.

 

Thanks!

 

Right now I don't even know what services are available. I checked the CALM site but there was no useful information, only a page selling stuff you can get in any head shop. It would be a hassle for me to get to them anyway, they are right in the heart of downtown and I live in the west end. So I have no idea what signing up with them would accomplish, except additional hassles for me and more paperwork. 

 

I have a lot of questions so I'm going to post a thread on the main board and see what comes up.


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 04:02 AM

Signing up with a dispensary will let you look at the cannabis first and you will be able to go home same day meds in hand to see if it works and you can buy as little as a gram. For about nine or ten bucks. You can also buy a capsule or baked good if you don't want to smoke. It's not much hassle and maybe tell them you can't deal with the bs before hand. Hopefully someone from calm can help you out. I would give them a call if you are really in need of medication. I live hours away and make the trip instead of mail ordering. And I also have a low frustration tolerance. Maybe go medicated if that's possible for you. Good luck though post here if you need the number
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Posted 03 June 2015 - 02:44 PM

I too had to fight to get med mj. They wanted me to try all kinds of pharma drugs, each dr was the same (I saw 25 professionals in 6 yrs, drs chiro, phy therp., massage therapy, specialists. I had all kinds of tests, CATSCANs, MRIs xray, ultrasound...... until after 6 yrs and my 4th pain specialist I finally got a reccomendation for meds that help.

 

If you get agitated during the day with your meds (I think you mentioned this) get something higher in CBD, like Nordle. I don't see anything on the board now that fits that bill, but it does pop up.

 

There are plenty of places to join, for free, I belong to 5 all together, each one was/is free. Here is great, lots of info and good meds. Might be a little pricey at times, but I have yet to be dissapointed. It depends on what you have access too.

 

Have a C.A.L.M. Day1


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Posted 14 April 2016 - 10:09 PM

just wanted to introduce myself as well! love the forums very informative!
 

 

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